Comments on: the role of the media http://summatusmentis.com/2009/04/29/the-role-of-the-media/ very little substance, excessive words Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:47:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Colin http://summatusmentis.com/2009/04/29/the-role-of-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-67 Colin Fri, 01 May 2009 18:25:43 +0000 http://summatusmentis.com/?p=264#comment-67 I don't know that "true, universal subjectivity" <i>doesn't</i> lend itself to truth. After all, the meaning of that phrase indicates subjectivity for every unique viewpoint on every matter; ie. humanity. What is more true than human perception and existence? I don’t know that “true, universal subjectivity” doesn’t lend itself to truth. After all, the meaning of that phrase indicates subjectivity for every unique viewpoint on every matter; ie. humanity.

What is more true than human perception and existence?

]]> By: admin http://summatusmentis.com/2009/04/29/the-role-of-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-66 admin Fri, 01 May 2009 15:43:04 +0000 http://summatusmentis.com/?p=264#comment-66 I like this hive/swarm concept of news, it's intriguing. Although, in the end, "true, universal subjectivity" doesn't lend itself to truth (absolute, objective, unsoiled truth). Maybe truth is an impossible goal, maybe there is no such thing as truth. Ultimately, I want truth :D I like this hive/swarm concept of news, it’s intriguing. Although, in the end, “true, universal subjectivity” doesn’t lend itself to truth (absolute, objective, unsoiled truth). Maybe truth is an impossible goal, maybe there is no such thing as truth. Ultimately, I want truth :D

]]> By: Colin http://summatusmentis.com/2009/04/29/the-role-of-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-65 Colin Fri, 01 May 2009 02:31:22 +0000 http://summatusmentis.com/?p=264#comment-65 Or, to put it more geekily, a hegemon vs. a hive. Or, to put it more geekily, a hegemon vs. a hive.

]]> By: Colin http://summatusmentis.com/2009/04/29/the-role-of-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Colin Fri, 01 May 2009 02:30:57 +0000 http://summatusmentis.com/?p=264#comment-64 I guess the way I think about it is that this is just one example of a "pinnacle of news journalism", and there are a lot of other ones, such as a system where there is a paper dedicated to news for every viewpoint, that is extraordinarily well at writing news about and for that small minority. When you look at these two ideas together, it's a matter of large, encompassing groups as opposed to small groups, a two-party political system vs. a many-party system, a hegemon of news information vs. an overwhelming tidal force of small, incredibly focused news sources. It's a matter of news being nothing but objective thought vs. true, universal subjectivity. I guess the way I think about it is that this is just one example of a “pinnacle of news journalism”, and there are a lot of other ones, such as a system where there is a paper dedicated to news for every viewpoint, that is extraordinarily well at writing news about and for that small minority.

When you look at these two ideas together, it’s a matter of large, encompassing groups as opposed to small groups, a two-party political system vs. a many-party system, a hegemon of news information vs. an overwhelming tidal force of small, incredibly focused news sources. It’s a matter of news being nothing but objective thought vs. true, universal subjectivity.

]]> By: admin http://summatusmentis.com/2009/04/29/the-role-of-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-62 admin Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:59:17 +0000 http://summatusmentis.com/?p=264#comment-62 The way I think about it is that these news organizations should be providing as close to an unbiased news story as possible. In order to do this, both sides of the story need to at least be investigated, if not presented to the reader. In order to do this in a way that is in the spirit of unbiased-ness, you can't ask pandering questions (ultimately just another way of only presenting one side of the argument). You hear of the 5 Ws (who, what, when, where, and why), don't they really just mean "tell me the whole story"? I'm intrigued by your question, and I will be looking into of further. The way I think about it is that these news organizations should be providing as close to an unbiased news story as possible. In order to do this, both sides of the story need to at least be investigated, if not presented to the reader.

In order to do this in a way that is in the spirit of unbiased-ness, you can’t ask pandering questions (ultimately just another way of only presenting one side of the argument). You hear of the 5 Ws (who, what, when, where, and why), don’t they really just mean “tell me the whole story”?

I’m intrigued by your question, and I will be looking into of further.

]]> By: admin http://summatusmentis.com/2009/04/29/the-role-of-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-61 admin Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:34:33 +0000 http://summatusmentis.com/?p=264#comment-61 I've not seen anything specifically saying this, presumably because I haven't looked at all. I'm sure I'm not the only one saying this. I'll look later tonight, I'm just at the UR tonight. Superficially, news sources are providing the news. That's what the words mean. However, there's a fairly long history in news media of being independent (in the sense that they're independently funded), and preserving the integrity of not only the first amendment, but ultimately the news. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News#Objectivity_in_news is a quick starting place, I'll look more later this evening. I’ve not seen anything specifically saying this, presumably because I haven’t looked at all. I’m sure I’m not the only one saying this. I’ll look later tonight, I’m just at the UR tonight.

Superficially, news sources are providing the news. That’s what the words mean. However, there’s a fairly long history in news media of being independent (in the sense that they’re independently funded), and preserving the integrity of not only the first amendment, but ultimately the news.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News#Objectivity_in_news is a quick starting place, I’ll look more later this evening.

]]> By: Colin http://summatusmentis.com/2009/04/29/the-role-of-the-media/comment-page-1/#comment-60 Colin Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:38:04 +0000 http://summatusmentis.com/?p=264#comment-60 Can I get some sources on "[to] be playing devils advocate and asking the dissenting questions ... is the mandate of a news source"? You've said this in various incarnations multiple times throughout your blog and your personal interactions, and I was wondering where the idea came from? How did you come to believe this is the goal of news media? Does anyone else? I'm not saying you're wrong, in fact, I think that, ideally, this is <i>one</i> example of the pinnacle of a news media structure, but I do feel compelled to be "asking the dissenting questions", simply because I am unaware of where this comes from. Can I get some sources on “[to] be playing devils advocate and asking the dissenting questions … is the mandate of a news source”? You’ve said this in various incarnations multiple times throughout your blog and your personal interactions, and I was wondering where the idea came from? How did you come to believe this is the goal of news media? Does anyone else?

I’m not saying you’re wrong, in fact, I think that, ideally, this is one example of the pinnacle of a news media structure, but I do feel compelled to be “asking the dissenting questions”, simply because I am unaware of where this comes from.

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